Comments on: Letter to Dave Cormier and you #change11 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/ Be courageous. Strive hard to not be the knower. Mon, 20 May 2013 07:36:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: #change11 teacher roles and MOOC | One Change a Day http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-1447 Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:02:01 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-1447 [...] Dave Cormier;  because of his intriguing ‘rhizomatic learning’  and his fine answer to my questions. [...]

]]> By: #change11 teacher roles and MOOC « connectiv http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-1104 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:18:18 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-1104 [...] Dave Cormier;  because of his intriguing ‘rhizomatic learning’  and his fine answer to my questions. [...]

]]> By: Tough Questions about Rhizomatic Learning from Jaapsoft « Educational Research Blog http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-999 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:21:33 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-999 [...] found this series of questions directed at me from one of the more interesting people I’ve run into during the change11 course. [...]

]]> By: Scott Johnson http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-805 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:08:55 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-805 Japp,

The status quo is more than just boring. A system that seems comfortable serving a smaller and small base of interests is exclusionary to the point that the values it purports to sustain and distribute are actually devalued by their being only available to certain people. Universities may well be exemplary models or progressive thought and deeply held democratic principals but it seems a rare number of university types care to open access to their country club of the mind.

Growth and decay are inevitable. They are change irresistible that staying in one place won’t stop. We can observe change go by or, we can participate in order to manage it. What is the greater risk?

Scott

]]> By: jaapsoft2 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-783 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:48:46 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-783 Ha Scott,
Discussing with new devils and scaring people is more adventurous and rewarding than talking to these grey and normal stays quo people.
This could be an answer for Jeffrey: We like change because the status quo is boring and no fun.
(Seems to be a physiological cause too, human perception is of change. Our vision is zero without change of light on the nervous cells in the eye. Our hearing is hearing of change in sounds. Our tasting only works when we eat different food.)
Jaap

]]> By: jaapsoft2 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-781 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:32:59 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-781 Hi Jeffrey, same with me. It is not possible to write goals for a course like Change11. And testing and measuring of the goals is not possible in the well known multiple choice way of today. Schools with a lot of advances skills in their program do have the same difficulty. Their students do not produce high scores on basic skills in today’s tests.
I do not know who and why change is becoming, and I do not want to prescribe that. I will discuss it when it is there.
Jaap

]]> By: Scott Johnson http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-778 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:25:29 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-778 Hey Jaap,

Love these questions and will work on them as time allows. These are questions we all need to answer. In between, I’ll be conversing with the Devil we don’t know. That other Devil of the status quo has worn out his welcome in my house.

Scott

]]> By: Jeffrey Keefer http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-777 Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:48:16 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-777 Hey, Jaap. Why would I want scientifically measurable goals?

However, another factor in this about goals is that those who establish the goals need to understand a lot about the content or process to be learned, in order to have goals that are specific, measurable, accessible, realistic, and timely. I did not really have many of these for #change11, partly as I am unclear about what “#Change11″ refers to, and also as I am still learning about collectivism, so did not feel ready to establish anything measurable.

True about change, but by whom and for what reason?

Jeffrey

]]> By: jaapsoft2 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-775 Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:53:38 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-775 Hi Jeffrey, thanks for sharing your goals and thoughts. Your goals are not scientifically measurable, why did you write your goals in this broad way?
Jeffrey, Could you imagine a world without change? Old Shakespeare did say: “To Change or to be Changed, that is the Question”.

]]> By: Jeffrey Keefer http://connectiv.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/letter-to-dave-cormier-and-you-change11/#comment-773 Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:34:10 +0000 http://connectiv.wordpress.com/?p=1341#comment-773 Jaap, I think this comes right back to what we identify or otherwise understand as being in need of change, something I have implied within my #change11 goals http://silenceandvoice.com/change11-goals/

While I am going to avoid answering any of your questions about rhizomatic learning, I did think that perhaps a broader question that came to my mind is “Why change at all?” Even if we acknowledge the status quo is not working well, the devil we know if sometimes better than the devil we don’t know. Still playing devil’s advocate, that may just be a benefit of maintaining learning as we already do?

Jeffrey

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