#rhizo15 some first questions


On april 17 1945 the polder I live in was inundated on purpose by German soldiers. All inhabitants could escape the water and found shelter in neighbouring villlages. In the photo the destroyed dike and the new dike.
Op 17 april 1945 is de polder onder water gezet door Duitse militairen. Iedereen kon op tijd wegkomen. En men vond onderdak in de omringende dorpen.Op de foto het dijkgat.

Question: How do we design our own or others learning when we don’t know where we are going? How does that free us up? What can we get done with subjectives that can’t be done with objectives?

Hoe ontwerp je je eigen leren of dat van anderen als je niet weet waar je heen gaat? Hoe kan dat bevrijdend zijn? Wat kunnen we laten doen met subjectieve bedoelingen dat niet kan met objectieve doelen?

Autumn Caines has this question: Heidegger’s The Question Concerning Technology where the old man is trying to get at the essence of technology which he sees as distancing humans from one another creating this enframing where technology justifies itself for it’s own sake all the while encroaching on all that is good and right in the world (especially the natural world and our connections with one another.)
I do dislike Heidegger, because of his dark and mystical philosophy and his dark past in WO II. But the question of connections and human relations in life and in education is very important to me. The importance of subjectives is a subject for me too.

Autumn Caines heeft deze vraag: Heidegger probeert  de essentie van de technologie te begrijpen Hij ziet dat die essentie  mensen van elkaar vervreemd. Volgens hem rechtvaardigt technologie zich voor zijn eigen belang en maakt inbreuk  op alle het goede en rechtvaardige in de wereld (met name de natuurlijke wereld en onze connecties met elkaar.)
Ik heb een hekel aan Heidegger, vanwege zijn donkere en mystieke filosofie en zijn duistere verleden in WO II. Maar de vraag van de menselijke relaties in het leven en in het onderwijs is heel belangrijk voor mij

Some sentences from @Autumn to think over:   and write a post about.

that technology can have an end game toward more artistic endeavors and that not everything concerning technology had to be about efficiency and calculations in the end.

if technophobia could be defined not just as a fear but also as a prejudice.

The big question for me is about human culture, about humanity, about learning to be a human in a world with technology .

Some links to useful places:
Links om te onthouden:

i am not on Facebook

Some essential links to gain understanding: at hjdewaard.com

open learning recipe

(afbeelding Wikipedia)


6 thoughts on “#rhizo15 some first questions

  1. I wonder though if the distinction between human/non-human is actually problematic. When focusing on ‘technology’ we believe we can easily make this distinction. But, my mouth is full of non-human entities, from the fillings in my teeth to the bacteria that are essential to my ‘being’ as a human. In fact most of ‘me’ is not ‘human’ at all.

  2. Well I hope these bacteria are the right ones that keep you healthy, and some people do suspect some kind of fillings to be hazardous. Not the distinction but the relations could be problematic. It is about values I guess?

  3. Nice curation post, Jaap. Miss ur blogging 🙂 (am sure u didn’t stop blogging, i just was focusing on MOOCs we weren’t doing together haha)

  4. Agreed! We ‘humans’ have been using technology since we picked up the first stick as a tool, rolled that first rock and realized it would help move things or captured a spark to keep a fire going. The technology today will continue to work with us and for us. Being human in/with technology is different now in terms of the external vs internal positioning of ourselves when using these tools. How our relationships change as a result of that position will make us more and/or less human. Will I choose to implant a fitness tracking device? If it’s a pacemaker that will save my life, absolutely. If it’s a chip to make me smarter or learn faster, I don’t know?! Connections to Donna Haraway’s ‘Cyborg Manifesto’ could be made here, but that’s not my intention. I just wanted to comment on the ‘being human’ part of your comment – I see it as a control issue. It’s about WHO is using that stick, rolling that wheel, accessing that data, reading those results about my fitness performance. Thanks for prompting these thoughts. 🙂 Helen

  5. Thanks for this post Jaap! I’m glad that you found some use for my thoughts in defining your subjectives around what it means to be human.

    As far as what it means to be human in a technological world I personally tend to see technology as closely related to the human experience. I think that the ability to build tools to perform certain tasks faster, better, and more beautifully is a very distinct human ability. I struggle with the idea that technology is imposed upon us as a nefarious controlling power.

    I enjoy this video from Jason Silva where he pulls from Nietzsche, Andy Clark, Kevin Kelly and others https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUzFtWNOOOU I hope you like it too.

    (psst – its @autumM btw)

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